“The church has always gone against science”
The illuminati? Interesting. Is this true? Galileo is a part?
Update: no this is “bull defecation”
Book to read: Devils and Angels(?) Dan Brown
Educated by (?)
Early on, scientists viewed natural science through a religious lens. Even today, people refuse to believe in evolution and vaccinations etc. because it goes against their religion.
Copernicus: the earth goes around the sun. but this isn’t the first time we’ve had this idea, ancient people also believed that, and Copernicus is reviving that idea. Also, Copernicus was a priest. The POPE asked him to do the research because he was considering having a renewal of the calendar. Let’s say that again for the fellas in the back: the kickoff for the scientific revolution was done by a priest because the Pope told him to.
We could predict the motion of planets pretty well, except we couldn’t explain retrograde. So Copernicus came up with the heliocentric model, and the Pope and bishop etc. were all about it and said Send It.
Good story: Copernicus finds out that someone (Oceander) slipped a preface into his book and died on the spot.
Science and Theology are on the same page (says you, I’m not convinced that this is true in all aspects)
Kepler and Galileo get a hold of Copernicus’ book. Kepler was the first person to give us true mathematical rules to describe what is going on in the heavens. He says repeatedly that he is using the tools God has given him, and God is revealing the nature of the universe through the language of math and geometry. Aristotle says that there are rules that are true below the moon, and rules for above the moon. Kepler says there are just rule rules. It’s time to give up the circles and go with ellipses.
Galileo argues that Copernicus’s model is superior. The Pope suggests that God’s math is superior to Galileo’s math. He made fun of him for it. The Pope gets angry. Shocked.
I love hearing about historical figures being savage.
Newton is born the year Galileo dies. He spent about the same amount of time studying math and religion. No one wanted to read his papers on religion. It’s another case of God revealing the secrets of nature to him through math. ALSO he thought it was in preparation for the second coming of Christ.
So in summary – there is not a war between science and religion, there may be tensions sometimes, but it’s not a war. Personally, I don’t buy that science can agree with all aspects of religion, especially when religious texts are taken literally. But I can see how science can be explained in a religious way. I want to do a little more personal research on religion before I can really say if it agrees with science.
I loved your (very humorous) summary and encourage you to continue your research. I came to a similar conclusion at a young age that science can not co-exist with literal theology. However, since science can explain very little about the universe (Dr. Mathur), especially when it comes to our origin/purpose, religion still seems valid to me. It would be interesting to know where you end up on the subject, Claire, but it s nice to know the class has encouraged you to think further.