Clair Teets
Hi, I’m Claire Teets.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
And I’m Jayasree Sunkireddy
Clair Teets
And we’re your host of word cloud, the official podcast for the English Department at the Ohio State University.
Clair Teets
It’s been about 8 months since the pandemic started, and Needless to say it’s been a very interesting Lee Chaotic semester.
Clair Teets
In order to adapt to the pandemic and remain socially distant.
Clair Teets
We’re recording today’s episode of Word Cloud through Zoom.
Clair Teets
In today’s episode will be discussing the relationship between horror and disability studies with our guest. Andrew Sydlik. We will be learning more about Andrew’s new podcast, Freaks and Psychos, the Disability and Horror podcast. Thanks for joining.
Clair Teets
So if we could start off with a little bit about your work as a graduate student, you graduated from the Department of English with a PhD in 2020. So I wonder if we might be on talking about that.
Clair Teets
About that
Andrew Sydlik
Sure, and thank you again for having me on.
Andrew Sydlik
I came to Osu’s dual MA pH D program in fall 2012 with the intent to focus on disability studies in 19th century American literature.
Andrew Sydlik
Being legally blind, but not knowing much about disability, I had this ingrained negative attitude about it since I was young.
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Then I found out about disability rights and disability studies an I wanted to study how we as a society developed certain negative attitudes and practices.
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That disadvantage, disabled people and how those are reflected in literature.
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I’ve presented my research at numerous conferences around the country in England and in France, including a few times on campus at the wonderful Multiple Perspectives Conference held every spring, which.
Andrew Sydlik
I encourage everyone to check out next year because it’s free for OSU students, staff and faculty. I also won a National Federation of the Blind Scholarship in 2017 and published a few articles on disability.
Clair Teets
Uh, that sounds very interesting and especially hearing that you presented this in other countries as well.
Clair Teets
It sounds like very important work.
Clair Teets
So.
Clair Teets
Could you tell us a little bit more about disability studies?
Clair Teets
And for those who are unfamiliar with it, it might be helpful to kind of have a better grasp of what that really means.
Andrew Sydlik
Absolutely disability studies is an interdisciplinary field that analyzes the cultural, social, and political aspects of disability and seeks to understand it as a form of difference rather than as a defect.
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As a product of social forces rather than as an inherent quality.
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As a way of experiencing the world rather than as a lesser way of being.
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Disability studies focuses on patterns of oppression that affect people with disabilities.
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Lack of Accessibility to the built environment, disproportionate rates of unemployment and underemployment, lack of access to print and digital media police violence against disabled people.
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Especially those with mental disabilities, lack of agency and important life activities and prejudicial attitudes embedded in literature, film and television, etc.
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And it is these oppressions that are often a greater harm to people with disabilities than their impairments, to sum up disability studies, it argues that the problem is not the disabled person, but the way that society treats that person.
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And that might seem like a simple point, but I think it’s extremely profound and powerful.
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It took me 8 long years to grasp it, but I think it holds immense power.
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Or for anyone doubting the practical value of academic research or identity politics, whatever other problems they might have, it’s truly a life changing perspective.
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It may not always seem like our work is changing the world, but it certainly can.
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Change things such as our minds and hearts for me personally, as I said, I used to have a very low self image because of being visually impaired.
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Thinking that no matter what I did, what other accomplishments I achieved, I would always be inferior to those with better sight.
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I saw it as a weakness that would always hold me back.
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That was internalized, ableism.
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Now I know better.
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I know that I don’t have to hate myself because I have a disability and my efforts from here on out will be to show others that they don’t have to feel that way either.
Clair Teets
Wanted to comment on.
Clair Teets
I think you had said something about that disabilities being a difference as opposed to a defect, and I thought that was really powerful because especially looking at how you talked about police violence, it’s very important topic this year to note that disabilities.
Clair Teets
Aren’t inherently a defect, and I thought that was a very powerful statement in regards to that.
Andrew Sydlik
Yeah, absolutely, and I think that’s one of the things that disability studies.
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Tries to get people to recognize is that the things that the ways of being that are thought of that way, thought of as being in inferior have to do with these artificial standards that we have set up. They have to do with not really understanding what people’s life.
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Experiences are we see these negative things that we make assumptions about and we don’t fully understand the context for them.
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So I think disability studies is about.
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Providing that context so that people have a different perspective.
Clair Teets
Yeah, and I think especially looking at how people in society view disabilities, because I think there’s often that assumption that.
Clair Teets
They’re they’re visible, and I think disability studies is interesting in the way it examines the different ways disabilities might present themselves and kind of gives a deeper understanding into that and how we understand it.
Andrew Sydlik
Yes, and I mean I think it it.
Andrew Sydlik
You know it touches on so many different forms of oppression because.
Andrew Sydlik
Just ways of being that are that are different and they’re not understood. You don’t always know exactly what the person’s experiences, and sometimes it’s not necessarily an intentional ableism because you don’t recognize the person has a disability, but you’re judging them based on things that you are perceiving.
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An and not understanding that that’s a part of the way the person is.
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It’s not something they’re doing to be be a thread or or or be, you know, be an annoyance, or in some way confrontational.
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It’s just the person behaves or thinks.
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Differently than you.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
When you talked about it took you finding disability studies to like get a better grasp of how it’s not a defect, but more of a difference?
Jayasree Sunkireddy
Do you think it should be made more accessible to kids at a younger age so that they just have more time to like have more positive representation of themselves?
Andrew Sydlik
Absolutely.
Yes.
Andrew Sydlik
I mean one of the things that I would love to see I mean why I’m doing this podcast that’s to reach a broader audience.
Andrew Sydlik
I would love to see disability studies taught in the high schools or even younger than that.
Andrew Sydlik
An I I have sort of proposed this idea.
Andrew Sydlik
I haven’t gotten any takers for it yet, but you know trying to get disability studies ideas beyond the Academy I think is I think it’s one of the things that.
Andrew Sydlik
Disability studies scholars should really start thinking more about.
Clair Teets
Tell us about your new podcast, freaks and Psychos.
Clair Teets
We’re interested to hear about that in your work.
Andrew Sydlik
Yeah, so it’s called freaks and psychos the disability and horror podcasts, and I use the word the because.
Andrew Sydlik
It is as far as I can tell, the only podcast dedicated solely to examining disability in the horror genre I’m the primary host, an each episode I bring on guests to talk about horror films, books or topics in the genre related to disability.
Andrew Sydlik
My aim as I said, is to bring my knowledge of disability studies and disability rights to the average horror fan, raise awareness and start conversations that I just don’t see happening too often and the name reference.
Andrew Sydlik
This is two of the most iconic films in horror cinema, freaks and Psychos, representing both physical and mental disabilities.
Clair Teets
I like that you labeled it as the horror and Disabilities Podcast, ’cause I think it’s very interesting that this is the first type of media we have.
Clair Teets
Kind of talking about this topic especially.
Clair Teets
Since it’s so relevant to your work and the work you’re doing, it makes it very personal.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
Yeah, just horror as a literature genre is very surprising that nobody is ever talked about like horror, along with disability studies.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
’cause I feel like most horror movies build on disabilities, physical or mental, to come up with a plotline like Nightmare on Elm Street, like a combination of physical and.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
Mental disability and most movies just kind of build off on disability.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
So it’s very surprising that nobody has ever done this before.
Clair Teets
Yeah, I was gonna say I was just watching hereditary the other week on Halloween and I was just thinking about it today ’cause I was trying to think of my own experience and what I’ve personally seen in horror films and I thought back to hereditary and there’s mentions of like.
Andrew Sydlik
Yeah, good one.
Clair Teets
Depression and schizophrenia and.
Clair Teets
Yeah.
Clair Teets
The majority of the film is really built off of this.
Clair Teets
These disabilities and you know, it’s I think it’s so implicit in our minds that we don’t think about it being an actual topic to talk about.
Andrew Sydlik
Yeah, for sure.
Andrew Sydlik
I mean, that’s that’s what I’m trying to do here is to get people to realize what’s been there all along an it’s not just a small part.
Andrew Sydlik
I mean, it’s.
Andrew Sydlik
It you be harder pressed to find a horror movie that doesn’t touch on disability in some way, then trying to find one that does because I mean newer, older, you know it’s it’s really been there from the start and that’s one of the things I’ve I’ve kind of highlighted.
Andrew Sydlik
In my first episode I you know it’s it’s really an hour long exploration of the history of this relationship.
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How to think about disability in horror.
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You know it goes back to the earliest Gothic fiction.
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If you consider that sort of a pre court precursor to modern horror got Frankenstein the stories of Edgar Allan Poe.
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And going on to the earliest horror films such as Phantom of the Opera Hunchback of Notre Dame Freak.
Andrew Sydlik
So it’s it’s always been there.
Clair Teets
Yeah, it is now that you’re mentioning like how far it dates back it, you know really starts to click in your mind and it’s.
Clair Teets
Very interesting to see how much coverage in time this study between horror and disabilities really has, because it’s, you know, not something people would normally talk about, probably, but it’s so.
Clair Teets
So relevant throughout history.
Andrew Sydlik
So the other thing that I wanted to address with this podcast is the fact that people who focus on disability issues, disability studies, scholars, disability rights activists have typically been pretty negative and dismissive about horror.
Andrew Sydlik
They see the genre as primarily.
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Reinforcing stereotypes of disability as being repulsive or frightening.
Andrew Sydlik
And so I really wanted to kind of bring a different perspective on that and show the ways in which many of these individual examples, even though a lot of them are disabled, villains or victims rather than protagonists.
Andrew Sydlik
They they can also.
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Have these deeper and more nuanced and interesting ways of thinking about and touching on disabil.
Andrew Sydlik
30 I think really have not been acknowledged, and there has been some work done that’s promising on my second episode I talk about Todd Browning’s freaks with Angela M Smith, who wrote a book called Hideous Progeny, which.
Andrew Sydlik
Is about disability in the classic horror cinema of the 1930s and 40s, talking about the way that eugenics figures into it. But she makes the kind of more nuanced argument about the tensions.
Andrew Sydlik
Yes.
Andrew Sydlik
Between the repulsion and fascination with disability and the the repulsion and fascination with eugenics, that that people had at the time.
Andrew Sydlik
So in in one way, it’s kind of those films were sort of influenced by the eugenic ideas of the time.
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As disability is this frightening thing that we need to get rid of but also challenging some of those eugenic ideas by showing.
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The monster is being unfairly.
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Persecuted and that is in fact what leads them to lash out in anger rather than them being necessarily inherently bad.
Clair Teets
Add, yeah, I think it’s it’s interesting that you’re taking a different perspective.
Clair Teets
’cause you know, like you said often.
Clair Teets
Is a certain connotation from the words repulsive and frightening as they are associated with horror films and these monsters.
Clair Teets
So I think it’s interesting to kind of examine it from a different perspective and understand why we have those associations.
Clair Teets
And even like outside of horror, why are the words we’re going to such have such negative connotations?
Andrew Sydlik
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Andrew Sydlik
And I mean the other interesting point here about disability and horror is that you know many of the movies that have come out recently have been very successful, split, don’t breathe and lights out are three examples.
Andrew Sydlik
Of movies that that have disability as a central aspect of the film, and they earned over $100,000,000 of budgets of under 10 million, so there’s definitely an appetite for films that explore disability. Whether those portrayals are positive or negative.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
Do you think given this into the relationship between disability and horror, disability studies could have an impact on the horror genre to make it more inclusive and less derogatory in some situations?
OK.
Andrew Sydlik
I think so.
Andrew Sydlik
I mean, one of the other things I was I wanted to bring up is, you know it is getting more attention.
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So Kristen lopaz.
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Just recently published some articles on disability and Horror in Indiewire, which is, you know, huge cinema and television.
Andrew Sydlik
In a magazine so and she actually cites disability studies scholars in some of those articles, and one of them was about another newer horror film called Hush, which is about a deaf woman who is menaced by.
Andrew Sydlik
Masked killer
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And one of the things that it includes and includes interviews with the director Mike Flanagan and they talk about how one of the things he regrets.
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He tried to make the betrayal of deafness.
Andrew Sydlik
As you know, accurate and an as non stigmatising as possible, but the role was played by a hearing actress.
Andrew Sydlik
So one of the things he regrets is not casting a deaf actress, specially since there are quite a few out there now and.
Andrew Sydlik
That’s one of the interesting things that we’re seeing now more commonly than we have before is greater prominence of disabled actors in not just not just small roles but but leading roles.
Andrew Sydlik
You had Millicent Simmons in a quiet place.
Andrew Sydlik
An an there’s an upcoming movie that will be released on Hulu later this month.
Andrew Sydlik
It’s called run.
Andrew Sydlik
That has a an actress who uses a wheelchair named Keira Allen, so we’re seeing a lot more of that kind of thing and I think that if disability studies was more in conversation with people in the film industry, we definitely see some different perspectives.
Clair Teets
Yeah, I’ve really enjoyed seeing more representation in term.
Clair Teets
Of actors you know that, like in a disabled actor actually playing disabled character, because I think that is really important for representation and you know starting these conversations like we’re having today.
Andrew Sydlik
Right, right and I you know.
Andrew Sydlik
I even interview an actress, Christina Arnst, who is legally blind on the third episode, which I just released.
Andrew Sydlik
Where we we talk about don’t breathe, which is about some thieves who break into the House of a blind man.
Andrew Sydlik
An end up fighting for their lives when they find out that this guy has a dark secret that he’s willing to do anything to protect, and one of the things we talk about is the fact that.
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The blind man, who’s not even given a name in the film, is portrayed by a sighted actor, Stephen Lang, who is a great actor and and gives a great performance in the film.
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But there’s no sense of.
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Any any effort having been made to to audit even audition?
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A sighted, uh?
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A blind actor for the role.
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Even though Stephen Lang has talked about in interviews that he’s aware that there’s blind actors out there, but you know that.
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Being an actor and being able to.
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To imagine other peoples experiences as part of his job, so blindness is no different than than that.
Andrew Sydlik
And I I agree with that.
Andrew Sydlik
Actually, this is one of the issues that can be a little controversial.
Andrew Sydlik
I don’t think that.
Andrew Sydlik
That disabled actors always have to play the roles of disabled characters.
Andrew Sydlik
What I think needs to happen.
Andrew Sydlik
It’s just a greater inclusion of disabled actors, period.
Andrew Sydlik
Whether it’s for disabled character or not, you know it’s it’s not necessarily for me an issue of authenticity and put the portrayal.
Andrew Sydlik
It’s more about, you know, disabled actors getting work and earning money, yeah?
Clair Teets
Very true, yeah.
Clair Teets
One question I did have is is there like a certain horror film that you just like specifically really enjoyed analyzing and looking into?
Andrew Sydlik
I think the conversation I had with Angela Smith about Freaks was very fascinating, because that’s been such a controversial film.
Andrew Sydlik
And in that conversation we just realized that how unique it is, despite the fact that it was released.
Andrew Sydlik
Almost 100 years ago, you know, in 1932, and that’s one of the few films with multiple actors with disabilities in it and also disabilities that are not just minor or barely noticeable. Some of them are quite quite significant and.
Andrew Sydlik
And a parent and you just don’t.
Andrew Sydlik
You don’t see that.
Andrew Sydlik
Nowadays, so I think I think freaks is is probably one of the most interesting films from a disability perspective that you could you could look at.
Clair Teets
Especially with how old that film is.
Clair Teets
You know, it’s often very interesting to look back.
Andrew Sydlik
Yeah.
Clair Teets
Here in history at these types of topics and how they’ve changed and contemporary film.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
People always make progress.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
Seem like it’s linear, but sometimes like it is most definitely not.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
It’s more like a mosaic like there’s always like outliers that exceed your expectations.
Andrew Sydlik
Yep, absolutely.
Clair Teets
Especially with this year in 2020, we can very obviously see that life is not linear at this point.
Andrew Sydlik
No, no, I in fact I mean being a student of.
Andrew Sydlik
You know 19 Cent.
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The 19th century.
Andrew Sydlik
I sometimes I feel like a lot of our ideas, not just about disability, but in general.
Andrew Sydlik
You know, a lot of our ideas are still just a variation of what people were saying in the 19th century, and you know, then sometimes it gets challenged in society.
Andrew Sydlik
It’s a pendulum.
Andrew Sydlik
It’s it’s not.
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Linear.
Andrew Sydlik
It’s a pendulum, I feel like.
Clair Teets
It’s a really good analogy.
Clair Teets
Obviously we’re recording a podcast right now, so I kind of wanted to look into why you personally chose a podcast as your medium and.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
Yes.
Clair Teets
And why was it best suited to the work that you are doing?
Clair Teets
And this relationship between disabilities and horror films?
Andrew Sydlik
So.
Andrew Sydlik
Well, the the reason I wanted to do a podcast is just as I said before to reach a broader popular audience.
Andrew Sydlik
I do plan to continue.
Andrew Sydlik
Scholarly writing as an independent scholar.
Andrew Sydlik
Since I’m not going on into academic teaching, but I wanted to reach people who might not have exposure to disability studies otherwise and there.
Andrew Sydlik
Horror podcasts are very popular.
Andrew Sydlik
There are some shows that have very large audiences and an active listenership.
Andrew Sydlik
So it’s also kind of.
Andrew Sydlik
A collaborative thing where the hosts and the listeners are always interacting so.
Andrew Sydlik
I want that to be part of this too, because I think that too often what happens is when when people talk about these issues, you know whether it’s in an academic article or even in a blog post.
Andrew Sydlik
There’s not necessarily that back and forth an I think that’s one of the things that I’m kind of excited to see with this show.
Andrew Sydlik
Just in a little over a month with three episodes, I already have 240 downloads across 11 different countries, so there’s definitely an audience for this. And you know, I I started to get this idea when I first began listening to horror podcasts.
Andrew Sydlik
And you know, kind of floated the idea out there and and to see if people would be interested in hearing about this kind of thing.
Andrew Sydlik
And people did did express interest so.
Andrew Sydlik
That’s really why I decided to do this rather than, you know, my.
Andrew Sydlik
My thing is always been writing.
Clair Teets
That’s excellent to hear that you have.
Clair Teets
You already have an audience forming, even though you have just started this.
Clair Teets
That’s especially in 11 different countries.
Clair Teets
I think you said that’s a that’s really cool to hear that it’s you know, reaching not just people in the United States, but.
Andrew Sydlik
Yeah.
Clair Teets
Elsewhere as well.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
So because it’s a podcast about disability also as well as horror, do you think there were any unexpected like problems with Accessibility?
Jayasree Sunkireddy
You weren’t anticipating that came up once you started making a podcast.
Andrew Sydlik
One of the things I didn’t realize before we even I even started the show is I I knew I wanted to try to get transcripts, but.
Andrew Sydlik
When I started talking to this person, she asked me if I had a style guide in mind or or a certain format and I didn’t even realize that was the thing like so I had to kind of research that and figure out how to do that.
Andrew Sydlik
Now I have that down.
Andrew Sydlik
I just have we have to access.
Clair Teets
Yeah, sounds like that’s something we will also be researching for.
Clair Teets
When we make a transcript for this.
Andrew Sydlik
When I was doing my research there, there was one podcast that they released transcripts in four different formats.
Andrew Sydlik
So you know that’s what I’m going to try to do is, well, I guess just to maximize Accessibility as much as possible.
Clair Teets
Sounds like there’s a lot to it actually, so that’ll be.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
That we haven’t thought of yet.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
Now we have to think about so.
Clair Teets
Yeah.
Andrew Sydlik
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think that’s always the case when you’re doing something like this, there’s there’s always going to be things that, oh, I never even thought that that was a thing.
Clair Teets
Yeah, one of the major themes we’ve been focusing on this semester in our work with the Digital Media Group is.
Clair Teets
Obviously Accessibility as we’re just talking about now and I I was kind of thinking of it and I realized that obviously the standard of Accessibility a lot of times in regards to a podcast might be like a transcript or obviously with videos we have, like closed captioning and that’s.
Clair Teets
Typically.
Clair Teets
Or relating to the end product of.
Clair Teets
Producing something, So what might we consider in regards to Accessibility throughout the entire process as opposed to just this end product?
Andrew Sydlik
There’s also promoting the show promote either individual episodes or just in general.
Andrew Sydlik
I always make sure to include captions or alt text for any images that I use.
Andrew Sydlik
Supposedly images make people pay more attention to your posts, so I do try to have images and just have.
Andrew Sydlik
You can do that easily on Facebook and Twitter to Add all text to those.
Andrew Sydlik
And when I make a blog post.
Andrew Sydlik
To to had to actually publish.
Andrew Sydlik
The episode I usually include an image of the poster for whatever movie is being discussed, so also including all text there which I do use word press and you can easily do that on there, so it kind of figures into each stage.
Andrew Sydlik
It makes it easier if you’re thinking about it from the beginning and not forgetting about it after you’ve recorded and put everything together.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
There’s been a lot of talk during the pandemic about how things are more accessible.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
Now.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
Do you think this is going to continue on after the pandemic for people who have a harder time getting access to things, wild things were considered.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
Quote unquote normal.
Andrew Sydlik
I hope so.
Andrew Sydlik
I mean, I think that we’re definitely going to have to reckon with a lot of changes to the way things are done an now.
Andrew Sydlik
I think that.
Andrew Sydlik
Even if some of the people who are are running things are not necessarily going to always be receptive to.
Andrew Sydlik
So these ideas, I think, now that people know more about how you know to do things remotely too.
Andrew Sydlik
To provide things in alternative formats, I think now that people are more aware of the possibility of that.
Andrew Sydlik
I think there’s going to be a lot more demand for it as well, so.
Andrew Sydlik
I’m hopeful for it, I’m not.
Andrew Sydlik
I’m not going to hold my breath.
Andrew Sydlik
I think that people are still going to need to be vigilant, and, you know, advocating for these things.
Andrew Sydlik
But I definitely see some promise because I think if anything else.
Andrew Sydlik
We have had to by necessity be more adaptable.
Andrew Sydlik
During the pandemic an you know I, I think that’s one of the Silver Linings in this whole horrible situa.
Andrew Sydlik
Nation.
Clair Teets
Yeah, I think that’s one of the reasons I was really excited to have these types of conversations today because I think it’s about keeping that momentum and you know, continuing to make strides towards Accessibility, especially as we continue to be so virtual and you know it might really shape.
Clair Teets
How things are addressed in coming years.
Andrew Sydlik
Yeah, absolutely.
Andrew Sydlik
And I I think I mean for me, one of the realizations of this is that.
Andrew Sydlik
There’s not a right or wrong way to be iaccessible other people might disagree with me about this, but it’s it’s not necessarily that being accessible means that you have to do this.
Andrew Sydlik
This and this, and that said.
Andrew Sydlik
And if you do that, everything is fine.
Andrew Sydlik
I think it’s more about just being aware and open to.
Andrew Sydlik
Other people’s needs, and you know, that’s kind of also just the the theme of the show as well. The the conversations that I want to have are not about trying to figure out.
Andrew Sydlik
What’s a good way of portraying disability?
Andrew Sydlik
What’s a bad way of portraying disability?
Andrew Sydlik
It’s more about having as many different kinds of stories about disabilities possible.
Andrew Sydlik
And so just I think, thinking about different ways to be accessible is more the key than trying to figure out, OK?
Andrew Sydlik
What?
Andrew Sydlik
What are the?
Andrew Sydlik
What are the things that checkmarks that I have to check off in order to to meet Accessibility standards just being open?
Clair Teets
Yeah, that’s a a really excellent point is that it’s not so black and white in terms of Accessibility and how like having a set definition.
Clair Teets
Of how we approach Accessibility but just being open and listening to experiences and really shaping our approach to that as we gain more perspective, we have talked quite a bit about your podcast, so if you could remind our listeners where we can find you and your podcast.
Clair Teets
And maybe preview the next couple of episodes or the future of your podcast.
Andrew Sydlik
You can find the show on most major podcast platforms such as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Stitcher.
Andrew Sydlik
And on the blog, which is freaks and psychos, podcast.com episodes are released every other Sunday. This shows Twitter is at freaks, psychos and our Facebook group is at facebook.com/groups/freaks and psychos so.
Andrew Sydlik
Hop onto either of those.
Andrew Sydlik
I’d be happy to talk with any anyone who’s interested in the show.
Andrew Sydlik
The next episode, which I already have recorded, will be a discussion with two other OSU alums Joshua Anderson and Matthew Connolly, and it will be a 2 hour epic conversation about disability in slasher films.
Andrew Sydlik
And I have a lot of other ideas for episodes after that, I’d like to do one on the show’s namesake, psycho.
Andrew Sydlik
And also a newer horror film that I mentioned earlier called Hush.
Andrew Sydlik
I have someone on board for that and I’ve been contacted by people who want to do interesting things like talking about disability and horror video games, which is not something I know about, but.
Andrew Sydlik
Be happy to to kind of explore that with other people who are in the know, so there’s a lot of ideas coming up.
Andrew Sydlik
I think there’s virtually a never ending well of content for it.
Clair Teets
Today’s episode of Word Cloud was a presentation by the Digital Media Group.
Jayasree Sunkireddy
The producers of this podcast are Clara tied, Gerrish, recent Ready, and Luke Van Niel.
Clair Teets
We’d like to send a special thanks to our guest Andrew Sydlik and Professor Scott DeWitt professors got to it.
Clair Teets
And the Ohio State Department of English.
Clair Teets
Thanks for tuning in and we’ll see you on our next episode of Word Cloud.